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		<title>By: Jane Hansen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/question-of-the-week-is-it-still-a-mans-world/#comment-723161</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, why not rewrite history--it&#039;s done every day.  Let&#039;s go on a quest to unearth the unsung women artists like Camille Claudel (Rodin&#039;s Asst?) and others who had the courage and passion to pursue their art outside society&#039;s confines.  Acknowledging, and unfortunately even finding, their work is long overdue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, why not rewrite history&#8211;it&#8217;s done every day.  Let&#8217;s go on a quest to unearth the unsung women artists like Camille Claudel (Rodin&#8217;s Asst?) and others who had the courage and passion to pursue their art outside society&#8217;s confines.  Acknowledging, and unfortunately even finding, their work is long overdue.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey Chan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/question-of-the-week-is-it-still-a-mans-world/#comment-124677</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Anna, Janis, Beth, and Laura for your thoughtful responses. 

In her essay, &quot;Why Have There Been No Great Women Artists?&quot;  (originally published in the January 1971 issue of ARTNews), feminist art historian Linda Nochlin writes:

&quot;The question &quot;Why have there been no great women artists?&quot; has led us to the conclusion, so far, that art is not a free, autonomous activity of a super-endowed individual, &quot;influenced&quot; by previous artists, and, more vaguely and superficially, by &quot;social forces,&quot; but rather, that the total situation of art making, both in terms of the development of the art maker and in the nature and quality of the work of art itself, occur in a social situation, are integral elements of this social structure, and are mediated and determined by specific and definable social institutions, be they art academies, systems of patronage, mythologies of the divine creator, artist as he-man or social outcast.&quot;

That is, inequality is systemic, written into the design of our social structures--art history included.

One of the reasons why feminist art holds resonance is that it brings the subject of lived experience into the formal and aesthetic realm. However, this emphasis on personal experience may be (and in fact, was intended to be) antithetical to the values of the art market and art institutions at large. So the question faced by Judy Chicago in the 1960s, and by artists working today, remains: Do you change your work to fit existing (perhaps sexist) structures, work to change the institutions of art, or create alternate models? While these changes should be made by the leadership of museums, galleries, and individual collectors, they also need take place within art schools (where young artists are socialized and mentored), in the artistic community, and at home. I agree with Laura that if gender equality and opportunity are to flourish, the cause needs to also be taken up by men, and not just by women alone. 

Even once they have gained access to the art world, artists working today--particularly non-white and non-male--face the dilemma of whether they want to be identified as such, or whether they can be known as an &quot;artist&quot; without cultural or gendered qualifications. I remember an interesting classroom conversation from art school, in which I wondered that if we commonly use terms like &quot;black woman artist&quot; or &quot;outsider artist,&quot; why don&#039;t we also feel inclined to call someone a &quot;white male insider artist&quot;?  Of course, doing so would reveal the implicit bias in the way we use language in society.

In addition to gauging the achievement of women artists through such markers as auction prices and blockbuster exhibitions, I think it is equally important for male and female artists to have access the works of women artists of the past and to publicly acknowledge these influences in order to establish that these lineages and traditions belong within the canon of art history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Anna, Janis, Beth, and Laura for your thoughtful responses. </p>
<p>In her essay, &#8220;Why Have There Been No Great Women Artists?&#8221;  (originally published in the January 1971 issue of ARTNews), feminist art historian Linda Nochlin writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;The question &#8220;Why have there been no great women artists?&#8221; has led us to the conclusion, so far, that art is not a free, autonomous activity of a super-endowed individual, &#8220;influenced&#8221; by previous artists, and, more vaguely and superficially, by &#8220;social forces,&#8221; but rather, that the total situation of art making, both in terms of the development of the art maker and in the nature and quality of the work of art itself, occur in a social situation, are integral elements of this social structure, and are mediated and determined by specific and definable social institutions, be they art academies, systems of patronage, mythologies of the divine creator, artist as he-man or social outcast.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is, inequality is systemic, written into the design of our social structures&#8211;art history included.</p>
<p>One of the reasons why feminist art holds resonance is that it brings the subject of lived experience into the formal and aesthetic realm. However, this emphasis on personal experience may be (and in fact, was intended to be) antithetical to the values of the art market and art institutions at large. So the question faced by Judy Chicago in the 1960s, and by artists working today, remains: Do you change your work to fit existing (perhaps sexist) structures, work to change the institutions of art, or create alternate models? While these changes should be made by the leadership of museums, galleries, and individual collectors, they also need take place within art schools (where young artists are socialized and mentored), in the artistic community, and at home. I agree with Laura that if gender equality and opportunity are to flourish, the cause needs to also be taken up by men, and not just by women alone. </p>
<p>Even once they have gained access to the art world, artists working today&#8211;particularly non-white and non-male&#8211;face the dilemma of whether they want to be identified as such, or whether they can be known as an &#8220;artist&#8221; without cultural or gendered qualifications. I remember an interesting classroom conversation from art school, in which I wondered that if we commonly use terms like &#8220;black woman artist&#8221; or &#8220;outsider artist,&#8221; why don&#8217;t we also feel inclined to call someone a &#8220;white male insider artist&#8221;?  Of course, doing so would reveal the implicit bias in the way we use language in society.</p>
<p>In addition to gauging the achievement of women artists through such markers as auction prices and blockbuster exhibitions, I think it is equally important for male and female artists to have access the works of women artists of the past and to publicly acknowledge these influences in order to establish that these lineages and traditions belong within the canon of art history.</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
		<link>http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/question-of-the-week-is-it-still-a-mans-world/#comment-120260</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that women still have to &quot;juggle&quot; life and art careers (and I don&#039;t think that is going to change anytime soon) so, What do we do? Do we sacrifice one for the other? Do we settle for part- time motherhood and part time art making? Do we put it aside to pick it up 20 years later after children go to college? 
I wonder how men feel about this? 
A supportive society is imperative to meet the challenges that women artists face wanting a career and a family...
Who changes society if not mothers raising children? We can start with our own boys, teaching them that we are not only mothers and wives, but also artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that women still have to &#8220;juggle&#8221; life and art careers (and I don&#8217;t think that is going to change anytime soon) so, What do we do? Do we sacrifice one for the other? Do we settle for part- time motherhood and part time art making? Do we put it aside to pick it up 20 years later after children go to college?<br />
I wonder how men feel about this?<br />
A supportive society is imperative to meet the challenges that women artists face wanting a career and a family&#8230;<br />
Who changes society if not mothers raising children? We can start with our own boys, teaching them that we are not only mothers and wives, but also artists.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women still have to juggle life and are not free to develop an art career. If they choose to try to &quot;have it all&quot; and return from child-rearing as an older artist with seriousness, the opportunities are still limited unless their ideas and methods are contemporary and/or timeless.  

Let&#039;s see, there are emerging artists, mid career artists and? So it boils down to a twofold problem; the singular focus an artist needs and a supportive society.

I don&#039;t see where much has changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women still have to juggle life and are not free to develop an art career. If they choose to try to &#8220;have it all&#8221; and return from child-rearing as an older artist with seriousness, the opportunities are still limited unless their ideas and methods are contemporary and/or timeless.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, there are emerging artists, mid career artists and? So it boils down to a twofold problem; the singular focus an artist needs and a supportive society.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see where much has changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most of the women artists that we hear about unfortunately have realized that the only way to be recognized or paid any mind to as a Woman Artist™ is to find a reason to take your shirt off, no matter how stupid or flimsy it might be.  When you get right down to it, if a woman&#039;s art isn&#039;t categorizable somehow as porno, no one cares what she has to say.  If she wants to make art about her genitals, she&#039;ll be tolerated although still ghettoized.  If she wants to talk about 14th century French poetry, the black death, Mexican independence, or anything that&#039;s not porno, she&#039;d better find a way to connect it to taking her clothes off ... and she&#039;ll still get ghettoized for it.  (And no one will listen to what she has to say anyway, because they&#039;re too busy jerking off.)

Cynical?  I&#039;d call it a blunt statement of reality, which often annoys people, including &quot;radicals&quot; who are supposed to be into kicking the beehive with blunt expressions of reality but who don&#039;t want their own beehive kicked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most of the women artists that we hear about unfortunately have realized that the only way to be recognized or paid any mind to as a Woman Artist™ is to find a reason to take your shirt off, no matter how stupid or flimsy it might be.  When you get right down to it, if a woman&#8217;s art isn&#8217;t categorizable somehow as porno, no one cares what she has to say.  If she wants to make art about her genitals, she&#8217;ll be tolerated although still ghettoized.  If she wants to talk about 14th century French poetry, the black death, Mexican independence, or anything that&#8217;s not porno, she&#8217;d better find a way to connect it to taking her clothes off &#8230; and she&#8217;ll still get ghettoized for it.  (And no one will listen to what she has to say anyway, because they&#8217;re too busy jerking off.)</p>
<p>Cynical?  I&#8217;d call it a blunt statement of reality, which often annoys people, including &#8220;radicals&#8221; who are supposed to be into kicking the beehive with blunt expressions of reality but who don&#8217;t want their own beehive kicked.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/question-of-the-week-is-it-still-a-mans-world/#comment-115556</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Times have changed, and more and more women artists are finding opportunities to have their work shown and valued. But the concept of the premium, genius, top-tier artist is still very much a male one. If Jeff Koons were a woman (just imagine it for a moment -- somehow, it seems impossible), would her sculptures sell for $23 million?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Times have changed, and more and more women artists are finding opportunities to have their work shown and valued. But the concept of the premium, genius, top-tier artist is still very much a male one. If Jeff Koons were a woman (just imagine it for a moment &#8212; somehow, it seems impossible), would her sculptures sell for $23 million?</p>
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