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Although Jackson Pollock’s iconic Mural (1943) may appear to have been swiftly executed, close examination of the paint and archival photographs reveals otherwise. In the second half of a two-part conversation, Laura Rivers and Yvonne Szafran, conservators at the J. Paul Getty Museum, Alan Phenix and Tom Learner, scientists at the Getty Conservation Institute, and Andrew Perchuk, deputy director at the Getty Research Institute, focus on how conservation and scientific analysis enhance our art historical understanding of Pollock and his work.

Jackson Pollock's Mural in University of Iowa painting studio / Frederick W. Kent

Art students at work beneath Mural in the painting studio at the University of Iowa, early 1950s. Photographer: Frederick W. Kent. Image courtesy of the Frederick W. Kent Collection of Photographs, University of Iowa Libraries, Iowa City, Iowa

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