Getty Museum's senior curator of antiquities, Jeffrey Spier, in the East Garden at the Getty Villa

Getty Museum’s senior curator of antiquities, Jeffrey Spier, in the East Garden at the Getty Villa

Jeffrey Spier is the J. Paul Getty Museum’s new senior curator of antiquities. He brings a wealth of experience to the role: He earned his B.A. in classical archaeology at Harvard University and his D.Phil in classical archaeology at Merton College, Oxford, and has held research and teaching positions at University College London, at Oxford University, and most recently at the University of Arizona. He’s lectured and written extensively on Greek and Roman sculpture, painting, luxury arts, numismatics, and archaeological method, covering eras from archaic Greece to Byzantium, and is regarded as a leading expert in the study of Greek, Roman, and Byzantine gems.

Jeffrey has also twice been a visiting scholar at the Getty Museum—most recently in 2013 when he studied at the Getty Villa. He welcomed me to his office in the Getty Villa’s Ranch House.

What does a senior curator of antiquities do?

We’re quite lucky because, in addition to me, we have five curators in the Antiquities Department who have been doing brilliant work for years with the collection and exhibitions. And together, we do many things!

We’re constantly thinking of how the galleries should look. We plan exhibitions; we field requests about what’s in the collection, and for loans to other museums. We’re constantly looking at the condition of the pieces in the collection—what might need conservation or care in one way or another. And of course we’re thinking about how to publish the collection.

What drew you to work at the Getty?

I wanted to come to the Getty for two main reasons. First are the exhibitions. We’re committed to doing many interesting exhibitions, including one on Hellenistic bronzes next year [which will be at the Getty Center], curated by my colleagues Jens Daehner and Kenneth Lapatin. It’s going to be one of the great exhibitions, ever, in the world. But even the smaller exhibitions at the Villa are very, very beautiful.

Second is the reinstallation of the Getty Villa galleries. It’s something I entirely support–a new way of seeing what’s in the Villa.

Tell us about the reinstallation, which is in the very early planning stage.

If you come to the Villa now, it’s a very beautiful experience, but the thematic approach to displaying the art makes it a little difficult to understand what’s going on. I’d like to show that every piece in the Getty Villa is a beautiful, important object.

We’ll emphasize a more chronological approach, so that objects are shown in their cultural context. I think it’s better to show related objects together—archaic, classical, Hellenistic, south Italian Greek—to give a better understanding of the art and the culture.

You’ve said that you’d like people to leave the Getty Villa “amazed and inspired.” How will the reinstallation contribute to that?

Yes, that’s my greatest goal–we’ll see whether we can do this! I’d like you to walk into the gallery and be able to look at any piece, see it very clearly and beautifully lit, and connect with it.

The J. Paul Getty Museum at the Getty Villa is unlike the huge encyclopedic museums. It’s devoted only to Greek, Roman, and Etruscan art. The British Museum is the greatest museum in the world, but it’s so full of objects that it’s hard to see them all. I think you should be able to see most objects on a visit to the Villa. That’s what I’m hoping for.

You’re interested in promoting deeper connections between visitors and artworks?

Exactly. Even if you’re not that knowledgeable about classical art, you can find what you like: maybe it’s a statue, or a piece of jewelry, or a Greek vase, or a painting—whatever draws your eye. I want to encourage everyone to really look.

Is there an object in the collection you’re particularly drawn to?

Jeffrey Spier in the Getty Villa galleries

So many things! I am drawn to sculpture; it’s something you can look at over and over again. I love the Elgin kore, with its beautiful drapery and shape. And our Hellenistic marble head of the second century B.C. is one of the greatest works of ancient art in America. We don’t know who this man is, but he must have been someone important. He has the most extraordinary face.

One of your scholarly specialties is ancient gems. What drew you to study them?

I like coins also; maybe it’s from being near-sighted [laughs]. Gems are very beautiful objects. Carving semi-precious stones is a phenomenon that arose in the Near East and Egypt, but the Greeks took gem carving as an opportunity to create fine works of art. They’re like miniature relief sculpture. And such a wonderful variety of images: mythological figures, studies of bodies, animals.

The Getty Villa has a beautiful collection of gems.

Yes. And we’re very lucky to have two gems by the archaic Greek engraver Epimenes. He does the most beautiful miniaturist work. One is carved from obsidian, black volcanic glass, the other from carnelian.

Among the many other fascinating gems in the collection is one carved of lapis lazuli–a rare stone for Greek gems, with animal studies on both sides. One side has a lion looking out at you, and the other side has a boar scratching himself with his hind leg. It’s a remarkable work.

Gem with an Athlete and Strigil / Epimenes

Gem with an Athlete Cleaning Himself with a Strigil, about 500 B.C., attributed to Epimenes. Obsidian set in a modern gold ring, 5/8 x 1/2 in. The J. Paul Getty Museum, 85.AN.370.6

What tips would you give someone coming to the Getty Villa for the first time?

It’s such a fun experience to come to the Villa. Beautiful weather, beautiful location, beautiful gardens. But of course, as a curator, I’d like you to go in and look at the objects. That’s my advice: don’t read too much; look at the objects and see what you like.

You mentioned Power and Pathos, the exhibition of Hellenistic bronzes coming to the Getty Center in July 2015. Tell us more.

The medium of choice for the great artists of ancient Greece was bronze. But all the great works of art we read about in classical literature are gone; all we have are copies.

There is just a handful of surviving bronze sculptures, especially from the Hellenistic period. These were all very lucky finds, and they’re all fragile, beautiful works of art. For lenders in Greece, Italy, Croatia, Bulgaria, and elsewhere to allow them out of their countries for this exhibition is remarkable. I doubt you’re ever going to see this again in our lifetime.

Let’s get fanciful now. If you could go back in time to the ancient world for a day, where would you go and what would you do?

It depends on how adventurous you are, I think.

How adventurous are you?

I think in the past I was more adventurous [laughs].

Well, imagine being with Alexander the Great, going all the way to India or seeing him march into Babylon and be crowned King of Kings. It would have been a remarkable sight.

Or imagine being in Athens at the time of the Parthenon, let’s say 440 B.C. You would see ancient Athens at its height, with its philosophers and artists. And you would see art everywhere you walked. You would see the plays of Sophocles and Euripides and Aristophanes.

If you wanted to be really adventurous, imagine being there at the battles between the Athenians and the Persians in 479 B.C. This would have been a tremendous time.

Last question. If you were stranded on a desert island, what one book or artwork would you want to have with you?

I’d have to think about what book or artwork I could read or look at over and over and still be moved by it. For books, the Iliad or the Bible would be good, or great novels by Dostoevsky, Balzac, or Melville. These I can read over and over.

I talked before about the Elgin kore. I could imagine looking at it every day and still being moved by it. Great art is like that; it just…speaks to you.

The Elgin Kore / Greek

Young Woman (The Elgin Kore), about 475 B.C., Greek. Marble, 27 15/16 in. high. The J. Paul Getty Museum, Gift of J. Paul Getty, 70.AA.114